Tuesday, March 31, 2009

Canada violates a few UN convictions Indirectly!!

Canada’s spy agency says it will use information extracted through torture when lives are at stake.

Geoffrey O’Brian, a lawyer for the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, says the spy agency will do so in the rare instance where it can prevent a catastrophic terrorist attack.

He told the Commons public safety committee there will be “almost once-in-a-lifetime” situations where such information — even if gathered through coercion — can be useful for national security.

Many human-rights advocates say security officials should make no use whatsoever of information from torture.

The committee is looking at the government response to a federal inquiry into the Maher Arar affair and a more recent inquiry into the imprisonment of three other Arab-Canadian men.

Arar, a Syrian-born Canadian, was detained in New York in September 2002 and subsequently shipped abroad by U.S. authorities — ending up in a grave-like Damascus cell where he gave false confessions about terrorist ties.

The other inquiry found Canadian officials had a hand in the torture of Abdullah Almalki, Ahmad El Maati and Muayyed Nureddin in Syria through the sharing of information with foreign intelligence and police agencies.

Sunday, March 29, 2009

Prime Minister Stephen Harper may want to start working for the RNC!

Harper skips Canada in favour of American pre-summit media interviews

OTTAWA - Prime Minister Stephen Harper will travel to the United States this weekend for another series of American media interviews, including one with the Fox News network that disparaged Canadian soldiers last week.

No government-to-government business or meetings are planned Sunday in Washington and Monday in New York, said his spokesman, and the full list of media outlets Harper will speak to is not being released.

"The prime minister will be in these cities in his capacity as the prime minister of Canada, but with the purpose of speaking with international media about Canada's position going into the G20 and NATO summits," Kory Teneycke said Friday during a briefing on Harper's pending trip to London, Germany and France.

"I don't want to give out a full list of interviews that we're doing," said Teneycke.

Harper did provide Radio-Canada with a rare interview on Thursday evening and is scheduled to give another Sunday to CTV.

Canadian correspondents were told not to bother trying to track Harper in Washington or New York. "You will likely be disappointed," said Teneycke.

The prime minister's latest round of media shopping comes just a month after he was last in New York.

It's part of a strategy to limit Harper's Canadian interrogations - where the questions tilt toward the specifics of Canada's troubled domestic economy - in favour of foreign media who can be expected to compare this country favourably to its international partners.

The only detail provided by the Prime Minister's Office was that Harper will be doing a live interview on Fox News on Sunday morning and a CNN interview on Monday.

The Fox interview comes less than a week after some Conservatives called on Canadians to boycott the network because of an offensive late-night talk show that disparaged Canadian military efforts in Afghanistan.

Defence Minister Peter MacKay called the Fox program "disgusting" and "crass" and a Conservative strategist said he hoped Canadians would cancel their Fox News subscriptions and that Canadian advertisers would stop doing business with the network.

Teneycke downplayed the controversy Friday, noting Harper's interview is with a prominent Fox News personality.

"There is a big difference between an interview with Chris Wallace - one of the most respected journalists in the Washington gallery who is a very substantive and tough interviewer - and a comedian, so-called comedian, with a show at 3 a.m. on a cable channel. It's different."

Harper will return to Ottawa on Monday and depart early Tuesday for London.

Canadian journalists, who are paying $4,200 each to travel with the prime minister to the G20 and NATO summits in Europe next week, were told Friday they would be limited to two media availabilities with Harper over five days - each one comprised of two questions in French and two in English.

The limitation on the number of questions is a marked departure from Harper's recent past practice, when all Canadian media travelling with the prime minister were invited to ask questions.

The prime minister's peekaboo strategy with Canadian reporters stands in stark contrast to that of President Barack Obama, who is raising eyebrows in Washington for what some consider over-exposure.

American media watchers, however, have also noted that Obama has adopted a more controlling stance to reporters' questions, establishing his own list of media outlets in advance of his news conferences.

Teneycke defended the decision to have the prime minister take his message outside Canadian borders.

"It is in Canada's interest - especially at a time of global recession where we have things like trade protections as a fundamental risk to our economic prosperity and our economic recovery - to not just simply talk to other Canadians," said Harper's spokesman.

"We need to engage the world, which means talking to foreign media as well as domestic media."

It will be Harper's second interview with both Fox and CNN in a month. He has not granted an interview to The Canadian Press, Canada's national news service, since December 2007.

Harper on Fox News channel oh my

Harper speaks on Afghanistan, economy, in U.S. TV interview

WASHINGTON - Prime Minister Stephen Harper has elaborated on his remark that the Taliban in Afghanistan cannot be defeated on the battlefield.

Asked about it on the Fox News channel in Washington today, Harper said he meant there will always be some kind of insurgency in that country.

"I do believe you'll see some level of insurgency in Afghanistan for some time to come," Harper said.

" But we certainly want to see a situation where the Afghan government can handle that security situation on a day-to-day basis... where the insurgency is of a nature that it doesn't threaten the wider global community."

Harper also talked about the economy, saying the global downturn cannot be fixed without the major U.S. economic problems being solved.

"We have to fix the mess in the American and global financial sector, we cannot have recovery until we fix that," he said.

The Fox interview came as Harper is preparing to attend the G20 group of nations summit later this week in London.

He is then scheduled to attend a NATO meeting in Germany.

I am glad i don't have to do deep level code scanning!

Canadian research uncovers cyber espionage network

Malware-spreading computers based mainly in China

Last Updated: Sunday, March 29, 2009 | 10:03 AM ET

Canadian researchers have uncovered an internet spy network, based almost exclusively in China, that has hacked into computers owned by governments and private organizations in 103 countries.

The findings follow a 10-month investigation by researchers from the Ottawa-based think tank SecDev Group and the Munk Centre for International Studies at the University of Toronto.

The group was initially asked to look into allegations that the Chinese were hacking into computers set up by the Tibetan exile community, but their work eventually led them to a much wider network of compromised computers.

Once the hackers infiltrated the systems, they installed malware — software that sends and receives data. By doing this, they were able to gain control of the electronic mail server computers of the Dalai Lama’s organization, the group said.

The researchers said the spy network, dubbed GhostNet, infiltrated at least 1,295 computers, many belonging to embassies, foreign ministries and other government offices, as well as the Dalai Lama’s Tibetan exile centres in India, Brussels, London and New York.

"Significantly, close to 30 per cent of the infected computers can be considered high-value and include the ministries of foreign affairs in Iran, Bangladesh, Latvia, Indonesia, Philippines, Brunei, Barbados and Bhutan," the researchers said.

Other compromised computers were discovered at embassies of India, South Korea, Indonesia, Romania, Cyprus, Malta, Thailand, Taiwan, Portugal, Germany and Pakistan.

The list continues with the network infiltrating economic organizations in Southeast Asia, news organizations, and an unclassified computer located at NATO headquarters. Although almost all the hackers were based in China, the researchers could not say if they are working for the government.

A spokesman for the Chinese consulate in New York dismissed the idea that China was involved.

The spokesman, Wenqi Gao, told the New York Times these are "old stories" and "nonsense."

Friday, March 27, 2009

Canada demands Fox apology for 'despicable' comments >Becuse of this!!!!


Canada demands Fox apology for 'despicable' comments

Because of this!!!!

By By Alexander Panetta, The Canadian Press

OTTAWA - The Canadian government has demanded an apology from Fox News for "dispicable" comments made on one of its late-night programs.

The government was incensed by a recent talk-show segment on the American conservative cable network that poked fun at Canada and the Canadian military. A group of pundits took turns ridiculing Canada and its reliability as an ally in fighting terrorism last week as four more Canadian soldiers were killed in separate attacks in Afghanistan.

"These are despicable, hurtful and ignorant comments," Dan Dugas, a spokesman for Defence Minister Peter MacKay, said Monday.

"No one is laughing and they owe Canada - and, more importantly, the families of each one of our fallen heroes - an apology for their ill-informed mistakes."

Canadian soldiers have been fighting in Afghanistan since 2001 and have spent the last four years in the country's most violent region.

Canada has lost 116 soldiers in Afghanistan.

The country says it will pull out most of its 2,500 troops in Kandahar when its current combat mission expires in 2011.

News of that impending withdrawal, and the army chief's comments that the military would need a year's hiatus to regroup and refurbish, served as a launching pad for members of the Fox panel to mock Canada.

The five-minute Fox News segment aired last week on the late-night program "Red Eye with Greg Gutfeld" and it was later posted on YouTube.

The segment features American panelists suggesting Canadian soldiers need time off for "manicures and pedicures."

The item aired after Lt.-Gen. Andrew Leslie, the Canadian Forces Chief of Land Staff, said the military would need a one-year break from operations after the difficult mission in Afghanistan winds down.

"The Canadian military wants to take a breather to do some yoga, paint landscapes, run on the beach in gorgeous white capri pants," Gutfeld said with a sneer, adding: "Isn't this the perfect time to invade this ridiculous country? They have no army."

Another panelist, Doug Benson, said he was unaware Canadian troops were on the ground in Afghanistan.

"I didn't even know they were in the war. I thought that's where you go if you don't want to fight - you go chill in Canada," he said.

The segment was posted online (http://www.youtube.com/watch?vtcJn5XlbSFk) under the title, "How to Lose Friends and Alienate Countries."

So far, more than 3,000 people have posted responses to the clip, which also makes fun of RCMP officers and their traditional red uniforms.

Monday, March 23, 2009

. Fox news belittles and mocks the Canadian military.


What do you think?

What do you think of comments on Fox News about Canadian soldiers?

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UPDATE: The Canadian government is now demanding an apology from Fox News.

Canadians have begun to express outrage about comments made on Fox News about the Canadian mission in Afghanistan.

In a five-minute segment on the Fox News late-night program Red Eye with Greg Gutfeld, which aired last week, panelists joked that Canadian soldiers need time off for "manicures and pedicures."

The segment was broadcast after Gen. Andrew Leslie, the Canadian Forces Chief of Land Staff, told a Senate committee the military would need a break of one year from operations after the Afghan mission ends in 2011.

"The Canadian military wants to take a breather to do some yoga, paint landscapes, run on the beach in gorgeous white capri pants," Gutfeld said.

Gutfeld added: "Isn’t this the perfect time to invade this ridiculous country? They have no army."

Doug Benson, another panelist, said he did not even know that Canadian troops were fighting in Afghanistan.

"I didn’t even know they were in the war. I thought that’s where you go if you don’t want to fight - you go chill in Canada," he said.

Click here for the video.

Canadians are responding to the segment and they are angry. The item has been posted on YouTube by a Canadian under the title How to Lose Friends and Alienate Countries.

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Stop paying attention , it's not as if anyone here watches this program.....

Posted March 23, 2009 12:44 PM


loud mouth very ignorant people, one idiot said he didnt know Canada was taking part in the war? omg how can this show continue to be sponsored unless they are sponsoring stupidity??

yes trash trash trash i think it was the country below us who coined the phrase eurotrash???

Puleez Ive had enough of such uneducated morons being Allowed to appear on television

Posted March 23, 2009 12:43 PM

Robert Woudsma


Canadian soldiers are fighting and dying in Afganistan in part to continue to defend those rights and freedoms we in Canada and you in the US hold dear.

Among these is that very right to air your sheer stupidity and ingorance of all things not american on the national airwaves.

By the way, can you guys even find Afganistan on a map of the world?

Posted March 23, 2009 12:43 PM

A Yaworski

Wow, Fox News.

How sad it is that we even give these clowns an iota of ire.

They are the joke of objective journalism in the US and it appears they are branching out worldwide now...

I guess these self important "salesman" as Keith Oberman describes them are, as usual, devoid of the facts.

Canada has lost more soldiers per capita (by percentage of troops deployed) in Afghanistan than the US has in Iraq.

Now, the last thing I'd do is call into question the honor of the soldiers of either country as they are doing an outstanding job with the missions they've been tasked with.

It is quite sad that a right-wingnut news network would attack a US ally considering it was they and their partisan buddies who pulled out of a UN sanctioned conflict to invade another country without just cause.

All the soldiers in harms way deserve our support and respect.

Too bad the marginalized elements of US society have nothing better to do than pick fights with allies instead of actually finding out what they really stand for...

The citizens of Canada have your backs Canadian and US forces. Keep making us proud!

Posted March 23, 2009 12:41 PM

Shawn Johnston

FOX? isn't that the channel with pointless meaningless shows full of bimbos, extensions and fake tans?
Anything aired on FOX is nothing but garbage along with the people who work for it.

It only proves that ignorance is still out there and anybody south of the Canadian border can't see past their own noses and their own obsession with patriotism.

Would love to say more but my horse is tied out back and I have to get back to my igloo.

Shawn Johnston

Posted March 23, 2009 12:39 PM

Les Gilholme

Everyone gets caught up in the momentum and who knows given the time of the day the show was on, that perhaps the host and guests may have just finished partaking a beverage or two.

However, they have no call to say what they said about our troops, or for that matter any Allied troops in any conflict.

As stated earlier the USA seems to create conflicts around the world, perhaps they should withdraw their forces from Europe, Asia, Middle East etc. Now what would they do with all their forces home?

Today I called my local cable provider to remove Fox Network, I also had to remove CNN no loss to me.

I urge others to contact their cable/sat provider to remove Fox Network as a protest to "Redeye", GO DO IT for those that serve.

Posted March 23, 2009 12:39 PM



When the FOX News panel started mocking Andrew Leslie's LAST name for sounding too feminine, I knew that I listening to people who weren't playing with a full deck.

I would be more outraged by this if I were American for making my country look ignorant and juvenile.

Posted March 23, 2009 12:38 PM



Outrage, shock, disgust... all of these things come to mind, but I will continue to do what I can to show my support for Canadian soldiers, and the amazing job they are doing.

I wear red on Friday, and I will now contact my MP to get a huge "support our troops" sign for my front yard.

I am hoping that the comments of a few idiots on a low rate "news" show will be lost in a sea of support and good will for our soldiers.

They deserve it.

Posted March 23, 2009 12:34 PM


Comedy ?...okay. Of an extremely insensitive and disrespectful type. Not even close to the same satire of Rick Mercer, filming Americans voicing their own ignorance.

I lived in the US for 10 years and the majority live in a vacuum of their own making and FOX news is a vital part.

Yes, the comments are inflammatory and make me angry. Expect more as we finally pull our troops from Afghanistan. The "you are either for us or against us" mentality is not just a Bush character flaw but a hardened feature of the USA's propaganda inspired patriotism. It is a sickness and mostly I feel sorry for them for they are a controlled mass of societal ignorance and know not what they do.

Posted March 23, 2009 12:32 PM

L. B.


Canadians who subscribe to the Fox Network can take action and cancel it. Such an action just might get noticed at Fox...and let them know you have done this as well.

Disrespecting our dead war heroes is beyond distasteful. There is no excuse for it.

Posted March 23, 2009 12:30 PM


Why should I or the Canadian Government for that matter care what integrity challenged Fox News thinks about anything?

Posted March 23, 2009 12:29 PM



To be fair to the Americans we do make fun of them sometimes, as they do with us, playful banter.

BUT it crosses a line when insult the Canadian military who have been sending in willing troops into Afghanistan since 2002. Their have been 116 men and women killed in action and these comment are disrespectful to their memories and to their families.

I feel sorry for the Americans who don't look at history, other then their own, and fail to see who guarded their border during the Cold War.
And who have no fear that other countries will attack us, because unlike some countries we have done nothing to disrespect others and are a predominantly peaceful nation. We wouldn't have to rely on the US if they had been making so many enemies, and by extension putting Canadians in harms way.

While some joking may be fun and games I feel that it is the responsibility of the FOX network to show some discretion in what they are airing because it does effect their public relations with their allies.

Posted March 23, 2009 12:28 PM

Steve Ericson

Fox News is nothing more than the propaganda arm of the American military industrial complex. Their views represent what's wrong with America and their insult of Canadians who are dying alongside their US "comrades", shows why Canada should walk away from their US counterparts and leave them to twist in the wind in an unwinnable war in Afghanistan.

If this had gone to a referendum our troops would not be over there. They would be defending our interests in the arctic the way a sovereign nation should.Do we really think America will defend our interests?

Come on Canada....give your head a shake. America is circling the drain and a thousand Obamas can't save it.

Posted March 23, 2009 12:23 PM


Typical American ignorance. These idiots on Fox obviously are catering to the democratic that enjoys Beavis and Butthead, South Park etc... who's IQ rating is in the negative values.

They probably belong to the part of the American population that can't even point out Canada on a map. Yes, this shouldn't be taken too seriously, but it's just another small example of how Americans generally view us.

All these little jabs and jokes here and there add up to paint a picture of how they see us. But should we feel so bad though when these insults come from a country that most of the world hates anyway?

This is an example of how bullies always need to target others and belittle them to boost their own ego. America may mock Canada, but America doesn't exactly have a perfect image in the eyes of the rest of the world.

Posted March 23, 2009 11:44 AM

Kevin Cole

I find it deplorable that a US TV station would allow comments of the type made on Redeye to be telecast. The US enlisted our help in the Afgan war in the first place after 911.

It should be noted that most countries in the free world have dealt with terrorist acts.

The UK,France,Spain, Italy,Germany & Canada have dealt with the IRA, Bader Mienhoff, Red Brigade, the FLQ, to name a few. This was dealt with by each country in turn. This was largely ignored by America. Then the World Trade Center gets hit. Not that this wasn't a horrible act with a huge loss of life, it most certainly was.

However now that an international terrorist act took place on US soil it became an "international war on terrorism". All countries must participate. You can't take a bottle of water on a plane anymore! Anyone crossing into the US over the Canadian Boarder needs a passport.

Well, if the opinion presented on Redeye really is the way the US feels over Canada's contribution let them fight it themselves. Bring the boys home and be done with it.

Posted March 23, 2009 11:44 AM

Pierre Laferriere


So.. this is real after all?

When I saw the clip on the news, I thought it was just some lame attempt at a joke on the Comedy Network.. Come on.. it must have been.

No semi-intelligent person would make such public asses out of themselves by spewing such crap, would they?

Then again, I'm sure no sane person with an IQ over 10 would be watching this nonsense at like 3.00AM.

Posted March 23, 2009 11:42 AM



A comparison was brought up between this segment and Rick Mercer's old segments.

Rick Mercer made segments of Americans saying funny or dumb things; pretty different than insulting a country for exercising its independence and not going along with the will of another.

Still it's not surprising, the ridicule should be expected; this will probably just be the first of many (especially from Fox) as more American news medias inform their citizens that Canada will be ending its commitment to this American war.

The same was done to France and other European countries when they disagreed with the American crusade.

Posted March 23, 2009 11:41 AM


I emailed the GUTLESS wonder and told him just what I thought of his & the panels comments.... In my mind he should be fired as he not only insulted our country & our countries military.... he insulted all of the
fallen heroes Canadian & US ....

My blood is boiling to think that people actually watch this garbage !! and they call it Humour...

WE ARE NOT LAUGHING!!!! with my maple leaf in my heart ....

Posted March 23, 2009 11:37 AM


I am totally stunned and shocked by the ignorance of Fox News! The news story that aired on the weekend was definately done in poor taste!

How could you air this when the families are grieving their loss. To show the fallen in body bags at the side of the road made my stomach turn.

My son is currently serving in Afghanistan and we could not be more proud of him.

Maybe you should watch Combat School on Discovery Channel, Tues. 10pm. and find out what our boys are really doing over there.

Posted March 23, 2009 11:37 AM



Perhaps a History class is in order if they question our resolve as a country....

Didn't we burn down their capital once...Good thing for them we make every effort toward diplomacy first instead of going off half informed making fools of ourselves and begging forgiveness later. I am proud to be a Canadian....I am welcomed abroad by any democracy by showing my maple leaf....

Funny how many Americans try to pass themselves off as Canadians while abroad to wrap themselves in the good will of our foreign friends. at the end of the day...being better educated collectively, we need to take the moral high ground, a practice as foreign to our southern neighbors as breathing water...(just one of many things we share that they can't live with out) we at last must be the bigger collective consciousness and consider the source...small people, with little or no power in there lives and limited knowledge, and little perspective on the real world. who need to feel important by bullying.

After all...they elected George W not once but twice! Not a vote for there collective intelligence! A Pox on Fox Indeed...I will be eliminating any of there channels and services from my television services and encourage anyone offended by this to do the same!

Posted March 23, 2009 11:36 AM


Remind me again why we are helping these buffoons?

Posted March 23, 2009 11:34 AM

Brian Jack


Dont get to mad , you have to remember they are AMERICAN, ignorant! Oh and they did forget a few things....

WE really do live in IGLOOS and that quarter they found in there change a couple of years past ..you know the one with the poppy on it(it is a spy quarter) we got all you secrets now America......

GROW UP and get a real job that acually airs at a decent time.......PROUD to BE CANADIAN

Posted March 23, 2009 11:34 AM

Mary Turenne

The only "fair and unbiased" thing about Fox News is its hiring practice.

Otherwise its employees would all be working for the National Enquirer and other publications of that ilk.

Posted March 23, 2009 11:34 AM



I, also, have lived in the U.S. and know that U.S. knowledge of Canada and our activities ranks with U.S. knowledge of nations in general. That is just the way it is.

But this is about the attitude of some Americans, not their knowledge. We are not likely to be able to change that, but their action can cause us to change the way we think about the things we do and, perhaps, as a result, change the things we do.

It reminds me of something that a close relative (by marriage) said to me during my two decades in the Canadian Forces. He told me that he thought my job was about helping to keep the world safe for his investment-centered economic lifestyle by which he could exercise his freedom to accumulate wealth.

I felt quite angry about this but, over time, I could see that what he said was not totally wrong, and this must have been part of the evolution that saw me make my way out of the Canadian Forces.

Yes, this all makes me angry. But the issue then becomes a question of what we do with our anger, and we can only use it to change ourselves, though, in that change, we can still use our words with the precision and effectiveness of all those bullets they have but we don't have (and probably don't need).

Posted March 23, 2009 11:33 AM



Typical ignorance. These idiots obviously are catering to their own kind, who's IQ rating is in the negative values. They're probably part of the American population that can't even point out Canada on a map.

Yes, this shouldn't be taken this too seriously, but it's just another small example of how Americans generally view us. All these little jabs and joke here and there begin to paint a picture of how they see us. But should we feel so bad though when these insults come from a country that most of the world hates anyway?

This is an example of how bullies always need to target others and belittle them to boost their own ego. America may mock Canada, but America doesn't exactly have a perfect image in the eyes of the rest of the world.

Posted March 23, 2009 11:32 AM



Perhaps these buckos at Fox News need to be reminded that Canada has peace keeping missions around the world which is taxing on our military; but then again, they may not understand the concept since it does not involve invading foreing countries and/or bullying anyone that stands in their way.

I wonder where these "journalists" got their credentials...the back of a cereal box
perhaps, or where they away when ethics and standards were taught?

Posted March 23, 2009 11:28 AM

Mark Pigott


The stunningly ill-informed and shallow Fox team, smugly boasting about their 'big toys'.

Remember this Fox, Canada sent more troops per capita than you did (WW2) and entered a full two years before you found the will to join the battle.

Your inglorious abandonment of the Afghan people has cost our troops dearly and your own President recognizes our brave defense against long odds, not the least of which is being tied to your clumsy foreign policy and shattered trust and respect abroad.

You trash the one ally who has stood by you faithfully.

Shame on you. I'd like to imbed you alongside one of our courageous men and women deep in Kandahar, if only to see your false bravado turn and run like the cowards you are.

Posted March 23, 2009 11:28 AM

Richard Konopada


Such comments coming from FOX is not surprising.

As a mouth piece of the US neo-cons and the Republican party FOX once again demonstates the arrogance and ignorance that the US has of all its friends and allies.

Posted March 23, 2009 11:25 AM

jenny terrio baturin

Okay, we've established that these comments were insulting, ill-informed and disrespectful to all Canadians especially our Armed Forces.

But lighten up a little: let the Fox commentators have their little chuckle. Had any of us ever even heard of these people before? No. Will any of us tune in to this program ever again? Not likely. This is their 15 minutes of fame and I expect they will try to maximize its effect. The last laugh will be on them.

These "journalists" can't exactly be at the pinnacle of their profession if they are reduced to doing a 3 am segment on Fox (a broadcaster that is consistently disparaged throughout the news world).

When I want balanced and fair reporting, I tune in to CBC or BBC.

Posted March 23, 2009 11:24 AM



Aside from their ignorant and insulting comments towards our armed forces, FOX News (and perhaps some of the American public) need to stand up and take note about the RCMP vs their police forces...have a think about the reason why the US police are heavily armed with bullet proof vests while the RCMP wear red and ride horses - it is sad that they feel this is worth joking about.

Posted March 23, 2009 11:23 AM



It’s generally known that FOX News is not news at all but a hate show geared towards the stupid. It’s run by stupid people, hosted by idiots, and watched by morons. So who cares what that show has to say?

Posted March 23, 2009 11:23 AM

Jon Gardner


Although I can understand a bit of satirical humour now and again, FOX news neglected to mention that over 100 people, 116 Canadians, both family and friends to some, died fighting in that country.

That doesn't strike me as particularly funny. At all.

Posted March 23, 2009 11:22 AM


I guess these sort of comments are to be expected from a Country that only showed up in the last few months of WW1 and half way through WW2.

Gee, I wonder what country was there for the entire thing!

As far as I'm concerned we should pull out entirely and let the Americans do a whole job for once!

Posted March 23, 2009 11:20 AM


The Fox News segment was insulting at best but to think that no one believes Fox is a mistake.

The vast majority of Americans have a better understanding of and appreciation for their allies. But, as a "snowbird" in the Bible belt, I hear the things the Neo Cons believe in.

The latest is that Obama will be controlling ammunition because he can't control guns so NRA members must buy up all the available ammo! Texas will need our help!!

Let's just hope that either the Obama administration or at least one of the more balanced networks picks up on this story and tells the real truth about Canada fighting in Afghanistan AT THE REQUEST of the US government.

May God protect all our military!

Posted March 23, 2009 11:20 AM


Long ago I came to accept an old adage that my mother often expressed that " today's news wraps tomorrows garbage".

Why does anybody countenance such ignorance and crass journalism?

Posted March 23, 2009 11:19 AM

David Poissant

Those poor Fox News saps...
doomed to eternity in oblivion.

Posted March 23, 2009 11:19 AM



My first reaction was anger and frustration but after a few breaths I started actually listening to what these people were saying and final conclusion is.

Most of what was said was untrue and downright stupid.

So as far as I'm concerned these jokers can keep mounthing off about what they "think" of Canada. I'll stick to what I "think" of them.

Posted March 23, 2009 11:19 AM


Long ago I came to accept an old adage that my mother often expressed that " today's news wraps tomorrows garbage". Why does anybody countenance such ignorance and crass journalism?

Posted March 23, 2009 11:19 AM

David Poissant

Those poor Fox News saps...doomed to eternity in oblivion.

Posted March 23, 2009 11:19 AM



Why are people upset? Since when does anyone paY attention to the FOX COMEDY News NETWORK?
This is the station that still believes there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, and that President Shrub was a great President.

Posted March 23, 2009 11:19 AM

Kevin Mullan

My momma always said, "What can you expect from a pig but a grunt?"

Posted March 23, 2009 11:19 AM

Brian Way

This is typical of some of the American population, but I don't believe reflects the mentality of all Americans.

For the ones that made the comment, it indicates they are self-centered and inward looking and know nothing about what is going on in the world unless it affects the USA.

Posted March 23, 2009 11:18 AM

Pete Harrison



Email these idiots, and let them know how you feel, I just did:

Saw your offensive anti-Canadian military segment online.

Deeply disturbed by it, as I've served in the USAF for nineteen years, and have worked alongside Canadian military men and women many times, and they are the utmost professionals at what they do.

Have any of you ever served? I thought not.
TSgt Pete Harrison

Posted March 23, 2009 11:16 AM



I take everything on Fox News with several grains of salt;

They are to broadcast news, what the National Enquirer is to print journalism.

Posted March 23, 2009 11:13 AM



Just Bring It!

I have served with US Troops and most are good decent Americans that would B-Slap this moron for his comments as Canadian Army Units have saved many American lives in battle.

Also this un-educated hack should read his history an remember what happend the last time the mighty USA invaded Canada. The results was why they call the Presidents residents "The White House". White paint covered up the smoke marks on what was left of it when the Canadians left.

Posted March 23, 2009 11:12 AM



It is terrible that a major media corporation like FOX that has a huge influence on it's viewers, would allow comments like this.

In a country that has a large population that 'believes what TV says is true', I would like to see what Americans are saying about these comments.

Posted March 23, 2009 11:08 AM



This coming from a country that has put the entire world into an economic crisis? A country that elected Bush for 8 whole years? A country that made a complete mess of Iraq? And they are making fun of our military? That's funny.

I also think its funny how they say they didnt even know Canada was in Afghanistan - why would they? They have their heads so far up you-know-where to even notice any other country, not to mention Afghanistan is where they SHOULD have been after 9/11 in the first place.

Americans should be embarressed of Fox news. I know I would. Absolutely ridiculous. If they really want to talk about something ridiculous, they should be looking at their own country.

Posted March 23, 2009 11:06 AM



Now everybody,these are the Americans who cause other Americans to wear Canadian maple leaf pins when they travel.

Ugly ,stupid,and insulting,ignorant,plus most any other negative description you can think of.

Not humour.I feel embarrassed for the rest of the American population having these poeple represent them on TV to the rest of the world.

Posted March 23, 2009 11:03 AM



I watched this video, and it was more insulting to Americans than it was to Canadians.

The fools assembled on the set were proud to wear their ignorance on their sleeves, and I could just feel the collective cringe of thinking Americans from coast to coast.

For Canadians, you don't need to stoop to the same level of commentary in your rebuttals. These people don't represent America, or Americans, or even the American media.

They are just idiots, and every society has them, including ours.

You won't find such ignorant comments coming from any American soldier that has served with the Canadians.

They would be the first to plant a knuckle sandwich on Greg Gutfeld's nose.

Posted March 23, 2009 11:02 AM


As a parent of a soldier that has served in Afghanistan, I am deeply insulted by the comments made on the Fox show.

It does, however, confirm all my beliefs that most Americans are arrogant, ignorant, and self-absorbed.

As we prepare to repatriate the latest 4 victims of the Americans war on terrorism, my opinion of Americans has been comletetly reinforced by the comments made on the reprehensible Fox show.

Shame on you people!

Posted March 23, 2009 11:01 AM

R. Munson

I saw it and laughed. It was a funny piece and I cannot believe that people would take it seriously.

Are Canadians so insecure that they can't take a joke. Get over it!

Posted March 23, 2009 10:59 AM

Andrew in BC

Even though the comments were ignorant and disrespectful to our Serving Members there is an overlying truth to what was said.

It is unbelievable, well not so much if you recall the submarines still in mothball, that Canada made a purchase of Leopard II tanks years ago and yet they are still awaiting a contract to be rewarded so that these very important pieces of kit can be used.

Also, Canadian Forces are having a heck of a time recruiting nd that is the underlying reason on why our Members will need a 'rest'.

Why doesn't the government double the wages and offer discounts to buy new vehicles (personal) like the Americans?

Hate to say it, especially since I am a CF Vet, but the reality of the state of our Forces is very close to what the idiots of Fox were joking about...time to look in the mirror, Canada!

Posted March 23, 2009 10:59 AM

Dr. M


I lived in the States for almost 4 years.

Americans live in a silo, the media does not cover activities of other countries, especially Canada.

Not suprised by this mentality at all.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:59 AM

ken hetherington

CBC let Rick Mercer ridicule Americans for years and Canadians found that hilarious.

Bit of a double standard here.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:58 AM



The 'frat house' setting, the juvenile 'intern' content with soundbite delivery - can only lead one to the conclusion that Fox has consigned itself to annals of dumb and dumber broadcast history

If there is ever an arguement to sustain funding for public broacasting to ensure journalistic content, accuracy and integrity this is it.

The alternative - Lots of hairgel and low IQ's

Posted March 23, 2009 10:58 AM

Claude St-Pierre

Please make sure Don Cherry sees that...

Posted March 23, 2009 10:56 AM

Laverna Randall

For the Idiot Comments by FOX NEWS: Red Eye
It’s interesting that you feel that you have the intelligence to comment on anything Canadian.

If you were more educated you would know that we do more than live in igloos and drive dog sleds.

Your backwards comments at a time when we are bringing home 4 more soldiers who sacrificed their lives in the name of freedom and justice is disgusting and ignorant.

Maybe you should open up a history book or two and learn more about your neighbors and allies.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:56 AM



Discusting! Saddest of all... Fox only cares for one thing...ratings and the broadcasters on the show only care for fame.

It seems both are getting what they want.

Too bad it's at the expense of of not just the respect from one country to another, but to soldiers who have fought alongside americans, especially soldiers who have died.

Freedom of speech should have a respect clause included somewhere within itself... I'm even more proud to be Canadian now than ever.

A Formal apology applies here for starters.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:56 AM


To Robert Butler:
Having spent the last 10 years living in the US, I know for a fact that most viewers of FOX News believe it to be factual. It's sad, but true.

The reality is, Americans always think they're the only ones in any fight, and any argument to the contrary is pure propaganda. They're world view is spoon fed to them by the likes... you guessed it! Fox News!

They have no idea of the world around them, and far more dangerously, no interest. Life was good for the citizens of Rome, but most Romans weren't citizens.

Americans are the new Romans, and the rest of the world is there to do their bidding.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:55 AM


I sent the following to Fox last night.


Just when I think that fox news couldn't get anymore "Enquire" like, I catch CBC (a true news source) and find out that you are criticizing Canada's war effort.

(Especially in the wake of our nation's loss of four more fine young men.)

Reread an unbiased account of the history of the last 7 or so years and recognize that Canada willingly joined to help fight your fight in Afghanistan and remained there while your military became side tracked in Iraq so President Bush could settle his fathers' debt.

Had your government of the time stuck it out in Afghanistan instead of leaving your work there to other, we together could have ended the Afghan war by now.

I guess oil and revenge win out over defeating the real source of the Sept 11th tragedy.

America has never had a better partner than they do in Canada and while we do not have your number in population or the capital resources you have access to (recognize that access to and in pocket are very different things), we do have pride in the fact that we contribute to the world when other only take.

You and those like you only contribute to the negative view of Americans that grew to record heights during the Bush administration. Simply put you and your opinions give the United States a bad name.

Hopefully your new president can cure what ails your country. I am sure he and others like him recognize that part of that sickness is bias and ignorance which, in effect, means that you are part of the problem.

Do everyone on both sides of the 49th parallel a favour and educate yourself before you spout off or just don't speak.

Proudly Canadian,
D. McKay

Posted March 23, 2009 10:55 AM

Terry Robinson

People listen to Fox news?

Posted March 23, 2009 10:52 AM


Typical Fox news propaganda.

Pandering to the ignorant.

We should not take offence that only stupid people believe Fox(Fake)News.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:52 AM



Their own president knows the truth and acknowledged it to Peter Mansbridge in a recent interview.

Americans are great, don't let some "wanna be" real journalists taint what they're about.

it ought to be dismissed as a ratings grab and then ignored.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:51 AM



Because Canada is never in the news in the US, this kind of trash is the only information about Canada for many viewers and build negative perceptions.

This is why Canadians are upset.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:50 AM

Elaine Scanlon

Ignorance is not always bliss!!

Like my fellow Canadians I am incensed by these fools on Fox TV......are they being paid for their ignorant arrogance......"big bucks" probably.......only in America eh?......keep them there!

My son recently spent a month in Thailand, news available from a "North American" perspective was offered by Fox.......everybody knows that this channel is abysmal and totally not worth air time.

A comprehensive objective on "World" news was offered by AL JEZERRA......needless to say that this was his channel of choice.

THINK ABOUT THAT you so called "presenters" at Fox News!!!!!!

Posted March 23, 2009 10:48 AM



I was all ready to write a long comment about how the FOX "contributors" were an embarrassment to their nation, and then I read the comment posted by Kevin from AB and I remembered that we have our own embarrassments as well (and from my own province, no less).

At least this will give the few people in Canada who took FOX news seriously a wake-up call.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:48 AM



I particularly love the part where they mock the RCMP for their horses and red jackets.

While this is obviously ridiculous the commentators somehow still seem to find it preferable that their police drive around in armored cars.

Where you you rather live?

A fictional Canada where it is so safe that the police ride ponies or the US where the level of violence is such that the cops need tanks?

I'm not sure how they think this makes them look superior. Idiots.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:47 AM



This is nothing but arrogance, but its Fox news that's what they are known for.

This is an organization with no code of ethics and boy do they do a good job at showing it every day.

We talk about school children being mean and bullying, that's all Fox news is; a big bully who nobody really likes or takes seriously.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:47 AM

Robert Butler

Please remembeer that fox NOISE was the loudest cheerleader for the election of dufuous BUSH for two terms.

They represent a rather low intelligence level. In fact most Americans look at fox noise for their entertainment rather than hard news.

Their collective intelligence of all foxx noise has not enough power to blast a devent fart.

Wuth the cheney bush unleadership the once proud United States of America has sunk to the unmeasureable depths of the bottemless pit.

Note that they now have a President who has a much more analytical mind according to one of Bush's cabinet members.

He was being overly kind to this creature who is now teeying tro rewrite history to make himself look good.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:47 AM



This was totaly disgusting and unfortuntatley
it's getting him publicity.

Started on Fox and now has gone to many Canadian Stations

.I have a Grandson,over there right now.

Strange that Fox has not done anything about it.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:47 AM

Robert Butler

Please remembeer that fox NOISE was the loudest cheerleader for the election of dufuous BUSH for two terms.

They represent a rather low intelligence level. In fact most Americans look at fox noise for their entertainment rather than hard news.

Their collective intelligence of all foxx noise has not enough power to blast a devent fart.

Wuth the cheney bush unleadership the once proud United States of America has sunk to the unmeasureable depths of the bottemless pit.

Note that they now have a President who has a much more analytical mind according to one of Bush's cabinet members.

He was being overly kind to this creature who is now teeying tro rewrite history to make himself look good.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:47 AM

David Axis


Sometimes people go to far - this is my rebuttal to fox red eye's comments

dear whatever you are

As our brothers and sisters continue to return home in flag draped coffins , as Canada continues to prosecute the war that you in the United States started and then (in your infinite wisdom) abandoned in favor of finding weapons of mass destruction in Iraq .

Leaving Canada with 1/10th the US population holding the proverbial bag.

You are right about one thing ,our men and women in uniform (some of them going their 4th and and 5th tours of duty in Afghanistan) are tired.

Tired of being used as cannon fodder / tired of the U.S. giving billions in arms / planes and equipment to Pakistan which end up in the hand of the enemy(your arms industry always arms both sides....except Canada) that end up killing our best and brightest while our boys and girls don't even have the benefit of U.S.helicopter lift.

Tired of your so called friendly fire . Very tired of you and your star spangled swastika draped propaganda machine. You want to invade Canada - do you even know where we are located?

You armchair pundits make me vomit / I am sure that if you bunch were confronted by a Taliban soldier you would curl up in the fetal position , soil yourself,and then give up every bit of information you could come up with (including the address of your mother).

OK , let us assume for a moment that you could manage to locate Canada ( after all it is a significant landmass to your north and as such hard to miss ) Bring it on , you silly sap , Just remember what happened to the Nazis in Russia in the 1940's.

We could just sell our oil and gas to China via our new deep water port ,then what will you use to run your war machine.

sincerely appalled
(may the mother of all horrors bring a pox upon all your houses)
Have a nice day!
David Axis

Posted March 23, 2009 10:44 AM


It's nice to see that the idea of invading Canada wasn't just limited to some of my classmates when I attended high school in the US, but is part of the verbal diarrhea coming from Fox News.

I wouldn't take the comment too seriously, this is Fox News we're talking about, they're not exactly known for being fair, balanced or knowledgeable, however an apology for this slander would be appropriate.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:43 AM

Michael Williams


Obviously war is a very serious matter in general, and more specifically the mission in Afghanistan, and for that reason alone this piece crosses some lines....

However, they do bring up one very valid point... if Canada was geographically located anywhere else in the world, instead of right next to the last super power, and NATO ally, who by treaty must defend us as if we were one country, it would be impossible for our military to "take a year off".
... this does raise some serious questions about the resources we put into our armed forces when our top military commander tells the world we can not defend our own borders

Fox is hardly the best place to turn for insightful discussion, but purhaps it wouldn't be quite so offensive if it didn't get so close to the truth.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:42 AM



i think speakers are right to say canada is a peacefull place.

canadians should not get involve in these mess that america created all over the world.

there is no appreciation.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:41 AM



Being a Korean vet I would love to tell this Jackoff how many US soldiers were killed by "friendly fire" and BTW do you remember the CANADIAN soldiers who were killed in Ahfganistan by the US pilots who did;nt know which were the good guys and which were the bad ????

Posted March 23, 2009 10:40 AM

David William

Utter trash, of course. It's one thing for Canada to make fun of themselves, and in the same token for Americans to poke fun at their neighbour to the north; it's part of the relationship between our two countries.

However, when you base an ENTIRE segment on the utter and complete denigration of our country's armed forces, who are fighting alongside American military personnel in one of the most dangerous areas of the world... that is simply unacceptable.

I am sure many American soldiers fighting alongside Canadians are utterly ashamed.

These comments do not represent the vast majority of Americans, I am sure; it is more garbage spewing from the mouthpiece of FOX news.

It is time that company start being accountable for the opinions of their journalists, especially when it is complete nonsense; do they not realize that Mounties do NOT wear the serge on general duty?

Honestly, if you don't understand Canada, don't bother discussing it on national television.

Any other journalist in Canada would find themselves unemployed in short order for a stunt like this.

It's called journalistic integrity. Something these brutes have none of.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:40 AM



Here's a thought for fox your the strongest nation in the world,why do back packers from the US put Canadian flags on their gear?

I've also seen some of their vaunted military wear Canadian flag pins on their shirts while on deployment with STANAVFORLANT.

Would Fox care to brag about that?

Posted March 23, 2009 10:40 AM

David Webster

That was the ultimate in ignorance, even for Fox.

It must be hard, even for people as stupid as this group, to rattle on about the superiority of "The Greatest Nation in the Universe", given their record at peacekeeping,their uncanny ability to protect the world from weapons of mass destruction and the obvious flair for all things financial .

Obviously ,none of these idiots recall the order in which the world responded to our last two world wars!The lady who said "who really cares what they think!" is right, but it is very hard to ignore such gross ignorance.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:40 AM

Lea Anderson


There is no room for comedy or satire when it comes to dead soldiers.

This so-called “News” network owes Canada and our Military an apology.

Our Troops have been carrying the load for NATO for 8 years.

These commentators showed their ignorance and lack of class by airing such a disgusting piece.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:39 AM



This reminds me of Rumsfelt & Rush " the intellectual "... etc

With this having happened, it seems that FOX has caught a serious sickness.

Showing off and the praising of stupid people ! plus adopting their ways.

They are the ones that most likely all elected Bush and look at what happened to him.

Now that fox is so popular, they might try to sell us tanks for war ! Be carefull Oh Canadian people ! Stay well.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:38 AM

Peter Lake


My wife is a US citizen raised in Atlanta.

I choked back a comment when I saw her parents watching Fox News.

Unfortunately the ignorance and naivety illustrated and perpetuated by Fox News is fairly widespread and is the reason that Americans are laughing stocks throughout the English-speaking world.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:38 AM

Harolyn Gourley

Seeing Red

FOX on a hilltop, underneath the moon,
yippin' and a-yappin' to a damn-fool's tune;
struttin' and a-prancin' like he's got the balls,
but I never seen 'im climbin' any henhouse walls.

FOX in the far-off, snortin' up a storm,
laughin' like a jackass just to keep hisself warm;
stirrin' up the neighbours just to start a spat,
but he'll flit before the fracas--just imagine that!

Well, the FOX on the hilltop had better stay put;
do his silly song-and-dancin' where's he's on the right foot.
If I catch 'im any closer, sneakey-wrigglin' through the grass,
gonna put a load o' rock-salt up 'is flame-red ass!

------------[(c)2009 Harolyn J. Gourley]

Posted March 23, 2009 10:37 AM



This proves that Americans not only do not know but do not care what goes on outside the their supposibly great country, which by the way are the sole cause of the world economy to go into the toilet .

There are Americans that still think that we all live in igloos , go around in dog sleds and are all aliens . Angry I am .

Posted March 23, 2009 10:37 AM



This whole ordeal is upsetting.

Greg Gutfeld, Doug Benson, and the other 'panelist' should be held resposible for the ill-mannered and politically incorrect statements made towards Canada.

I'm shocked that these so called 'news' panelists still have their jobs.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:37 AM

Bob G.

If this passes for funny to fox viewers then maybe a punch to their heads will have them laughing their asses off.

This kind of crap is the very reason I will not watch FOX and have blocked it from being viewed on all the TV's in my home.

If it wasn't that it was on CBC I wouldn't have known about it since I don't watch CTV either as I feel it's really just Canada's version of FOX.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:37 AM

Pete Harrison


Fox News is an entertainment network, not a journalistic organization.

Having served in the US military for the past 19 years, I have had the oppurtunity to work alongside Canadian military people with AWACS, in Afghanistan, and here in Florida.

I can say that to a single member, they've been some of the finest, most professional folks I've ever served alongside.

The comments on Fox are ignorant, irresponsible, insulting, and embarrassing. Bad comedy at it's worst.
TSgt Pete Harrison

Posted March 23, 2009 10:37 AM

Ross James


As I understand it a full 20% of FOX staff members were able to find north on a compass after only their 3rd try.

Gutfeld was overheard saying " at least we spelled Canada properly with a capital "K"

Posted March 23, 2009 10:36 AM



Is no one at the CBC aware that this was a panel of standup comedians and that none of them are journalists?!

They were just trying to out-riff each other with common Canadian stereotypes.

One of the guys was a contestant on Last Comic Standing for crying out loud - do you think media outlets in the U.S. would get their knickers in a knot if Sean Cullen said something that mocked Americans?

It would have all the resonance of a toot in a windstorm. Can't the media here grow a pair and not try and whip something up every single time someone in the U.S. makes us cry by not saying how great we are?

Posted March 23, 2009 10:35 AM


We should not worry about the fox news reporters because we know by previous reporting that this company cannot afford people with more than a single digit IQ.

The good reporters are at CBC, NBC, CBS, etc.

Now you know why the new US administration is pushing hard to reform the education system in the States so they don’t get any more future idiots like this.

It must be lonely in the illiterate world?

Posted March 23, 2009 10:35 AM



These strange comments are way out of line and will ruffle feathers up north.

I hope Canadians have the self esteem to see them for what they are - mouthings from some nobody trying to get attention.

The job Canada is doing is much admired down here and frankly puts most other NATO members (who are afraid to go out after dark) to shame.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:35 AM



Americans are right . canada is a peaceful place . we should not get involved in the mess that Americans created all over the world.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:35 AM


This show airs weekdays at 3 am on a fringe cable news network. We shouldn't be giving this ignoramus prime-time coverage.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:34 AM

Mark Peters


Gutfeld's comments are way off the mark. Every Canadian knows this and any Americans who are halfway up to date on the war in Afghanistan know this too.

But for CBC News to subtly intend on its front page that Fox News is "unbalanced"... that takes the cake. It is particularly ironic, almost laughable, given Heather Mallick and Neil MacDonald are given such prominence on the very same CBC News front page.

Fox provides more balanced reporting in a day than CBC provides in year. People expecting balance don't go to CBC, they go to Fox and/or the web.

So, yeah, boo Gutfeld. But CBC is in no position to question the "balance" at Fox.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:34 AM


This show airs weekdays at 3 am on a fringe cable news network. We shouldn't be giving this ignoramus prime-time coverage.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:34 AM


I have been offended many times by the fools on Fox and I have never ever turned the channel on, but their latest insult was too much. I have a dear friend in the military, at Petawawa, who has served in Afghanistan and to have his and others efforts and sacrifices belittled is unacceptable.

I went to my Starchoice account and had Fox "News" removed from my account. It was part of a bundle and required a moment or two to figure out how to get rid of it but that is the least I can do.

Whether we watch the channel or not having it in our accounts means they receive subscription fees from us. I will not pay to have our brave and finest insulted. Fair and Balanced? Fairly unbalanced more like. Show you care. REMOVE FOX "NEWS" FROM YOUR TV SUBSCRIPTIONS

Posted March 23, 2009 10:34 AM



"Don't expect anything from a pig but a grunt!"...'Boots' McDonald

Posted March 23, 2009 10:33 AM

C. VanderKraan


A typical comment from a US station.
We should never forget that the only war the US ever won was the civil war.

In all other wars they were only a participant,
with glorious examples like the bay of pigs, or Somalia or a major opponent like Panama!!

So let us not get upset because we know who said it.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:33 AM



Why is our media focusing on this!? Of course it will generate anger - that's what it's meant to do. But, in a time when we need to focus on working together - let's focus on the positive! Even Americans know that Fox News is full of p*** & vinegar - that's what they balance!

Focus on Barack; focus on joint missions. Don't focus on idiots who want more than 15min. Canadians (and Americans) don't need a reason to fight - they need a reason to come together.

Fox News is irrelevant; the people who buy into their crap would come up with it themselves. But, most Americans don't - and those are the Americans we (and our media) should focus on!

Posted March 23, 2009 10:32 AM


I think they should bring our kids home and send in the comedians. Let them try to do the work our soldiers are doing. Then they can laugh.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:31 AM

Peggy Lalor


Another example of the poorly informed US media which is a dis-service to the American people. After living there for 15 years I don't think I ever heard them discuss who their partners in this war are.

Their US media bias without international broadcasts like BBC or CBC or Al Jezeera creates a poorly informed "strongest country" in the world waiting for the fall!

Posted March 23, 2009 10:30 AM

Larry Richardson


If this sort of comment had come from a real news network one might be offended.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:30 AM

terry Collier


Why would anyone take anything said on Faux News seriously? This was after all the main cheerleader for George Bush and his illegal and immoral wars.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:30 AM

Nelson Emery


Who cares? Only the Intellectually Challanged watch Fox News

Posted March 23, 2009 10:28 AM

Rob Garraway

Why worry about what Fox News says? Just remember, these are the people who voted for G.W. Bush!!


Posted March 23, 2009 10:27 AM


These people have no shame and certainly are not educated. It is because of comments like these, [in particular the Fox network in this instance, as well as previous rubbish on air], that the world continues to loss respect for the United States.

I suppose this cruel attempt at 'sick' humour helps them from looking too closely at themselves!

Posted March 23, 2009 10:26 AM

milton mackenzie

What an insulting video but then when you consider the source, what can you expect? FOX media will do anything for a buck even if it means insulting one of the only countries in the world the US can consider a friend.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:26 AM



I don't understand the phony outrage at the Fox remarks. I've heard worse from the Liberals/CBC.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:25 AM


Can the CRTC decide to stop having FOX broadcasting in Canada??

Don't hold your breath for an apology, this is FOX remember.

It's too bad that camcorders weren't evented way back when... It'd be nice to post the War of 1812 on youtube... just to remind them.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:24 AM


To Greg Gutfeld,

I am just going to hang around a wait for your apology. Or the one that comes from your network.

Just another useless rant from a poor misguided nation. You guys spend way too much time in the media world. Maybe you should stick to a topic you might actually understand like waiting for Britney Spears to fall off the wagon again. I am sure your listeners are more interested in that than anything to do with Canada.

Do your followers even know where Canada is? Ask your audience of geniuses if they can spell Canada? Maybe even get tough on them and see if they can name our Capital city. Good Luck!

Maybe the panel that you had on last night needs to go over to see who is doing the real work over there. Or even better, how about you bring the same gang of intellects up to CFB Petawawa (not the Capital) to give the same comments to the families of those who just lost there kids. We dare you.

We will gladly wait until they get back from either trip to hear the apology. Maybe then at least it will be an informed comment. What a concept!

Your neighbours in Canada.

PS. We still got a bank up here bucko. How about you?

Posted March 23, 2009 10:23 AM

Cheryl Wright

I was offended by the comments as such "journalists" spewed their ignorance. We have fought with that country ( U.S ) everytime one of their politicians opens their mouth and makes another enemy. As far as spending money on our army???

We have spent it elsewhere, like social assistance progams, education, and health care.. 3 things that the United States lacks. Don't remember who invented Kevlar?

It was a Canadian scientist.. and for the Americans who don't know what that is... it is the lining inside of your beloved bullet proof vests! Our RCMP are veered as statues of honesty, integrity, and true Canadian honor... unlike your police departments who are always in the news for corruption.

Yes, Fox News.. we are in the war, yes we have had soldiers who have fallen for the love of their country.. maybe to jog your memories on how crucial we are to NATO and the world we should send our troops home and let you fight your own battles.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:22 AM

Ken Gilmour


we burned down the white house in 1812 -- they were late to both world wars, used falsehoods as a reason to invade iraq and as we prepare to honour the sacrifice of four more canadian soldiers, fox news mocks our military!

after americans have finished making amends to the rest of the world for eight years of bush perhaps then they can say what they want, but until then, shut up and get a life that has some meaning

where is your highway of heroes?

Posted March 23, 2009 10:21 AM



The ignorance of the reporters was obvious enough to show that whatever spewed from their mouths not be taken serious.

Posted March 23, 2009 10:20 AM

Travis McFarlane

This kind of trash disgusts me, I have a cousin serving proudly with the Canadian Forces in Afghanistan.

FOX news serves no relevant purpose in society but to perpetuate the unfortunate and unjust depiction of 'the typical American' If I was an american I would be ashamed that this station is allowed to broadcast to the world on my behalf.